Attendees: Casper Dreef, Chris Philips, Nicole Harris, Steve Glover, Jean-Pierre Aerts, Maarten Kremers, Kevin Hickey, Alex Stuart, Pål Axelsson, Daniel Muscat, Dean Flanders, Alan Buxey, Davide Vaghetti, Peter Gietz, Meshna Koren, Martin Stanislav, Albert Wu, Stephen Lovell
Agenda:- define
- Background
- Define the work items and work plan of this WG as described in WG Charter eduGAIN Futures Working Group Charter
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- Elect the Chair(s)
- AOB
Notes:
1. Background
Only 1 major revision since the start of eduGAIN. Governance and profiles. Baseline expectations in REFEDS.
Davide: Is eduGAIN a marketplace for metadata or a infrastucture? In case of the later, the bar should be raised.
Terry: What is the value proposition of eduGAIN? How do we promote eduGAIN.
What impact do commercial parties have on eduGAIN?
Chris: Technology, OpenID Connect in particular, is obviously missing on the agenda.
The group agreed that technology should be on the agenda,
Meshna: It is important to sustain the community. For an SP it's becoming increasingly difficult to see the benefits, due to technological difficulties. Making eduGAIN more relevant and interesting for SPs. A long-term strategy is needed.
Daniel: Could eduGAIN offer contractual services to overcome difficulties with regards to privacy.
Nicole: R&S and CoCO exist, but are not enforced by eduGAIN.
Chris: 2 potentional work items Assurance and MFA.
Dean: Critical for open science is to get group membership for organisations.
Peter: New development: eduID.
Davide: Changes need to be sustainable. We can't cover it all, so we need to stick with the fundamentals. Currently eduGAIN - by design - doesn't have the capacity to manage a single entity. Do we want to change this?
2. Define work items
Nicole went over the proposed WG Charter.
Chris: Goals. What's the product of this group? Recommondations to the eSG?
Nicole: Yes, a set of recommendations to be sent out to eduGAIN in the wider sense (eSG, OT, Secretariat, etc).
Davide: Try to capture the view of all stakeholders. At the moment we don't have big research infrastuctures.
Alan: Is a service catalogue in scope? Would help with the value proposition.
Terry: This WG is to identify the missing items in eG.
Albert: How do we make eduGAIN intuitive to a researcher? And how do we make technology support that?
Chris: Look into papers writen about FIM4R/L. What has changed/happened since these papers were published? Direct changes to the eduGAIN service.
Alex: Should this be a short term working group?
Nicole: Time frame suggestion. Recommendations done by May. Outcomes to be discussed during TNC and REFEDS meetings.
Dean: Add a seventh item about the future technical vision.
Nicole: Current work items form under Goal 1. Technical recommendations could fall under Goal 2.
Dean: Concept of FaaS should be able to support a broader set of technologies (SAML, OIDC, etc.).
Chris: eSG is more a general assembly. This group could be a companion of the OT. Long running. Get work done faster. (Goal 3)
Pål: Work item 8. Possible formation of long term group or team.
3. Elect the Chair
Call for chair
4. AOB
Homework: read into Baseline Expectations!