eduroam Development VC Minutes 2025-02-25 1600 CET

Attendance

Attendees

  • Stefan Winter (Restena)
  • Stefan Paetow (Jisc)
  • Ed Kingscote (CANARIE, CA)
  • Anders Nilsson (SUNET, SE)
  • Tomasz Wolniewicz (PSNC)
  • Zbigniew Ołtuszyk (PSNC)
  • Janfred Rieckers (DFN, DE)
  • Alan Dekok (FreeRADIUS)
  • Fabian Mauchle (Switch)
  • Christian Rohrer (Switch)
  • Martin Stanislav (SANET, SK)
  • Maja Gorecka-Wolniewicz (PSNC)
  • Louis Twomey (HEAnet, IE)
  • Hideaki Goto (Tohoku University/NII)
  • Ingimar Jonsson (RHNET, IS)
  • Zenon Mousmoulas (GRNET)
  • Halil Adem (GRNET)
  • Ed Wincott (Jisc, UK)
  • Guy Halse (TENET)
  • Frederic Gerber (Switch)
  • Janos Mohacsi (Pro-M, HU)

Regrets

Agenda / Proceedings

  1. Welcome / Agenda Bashing

  2. CAT news

    • CAT is working smoothly
    • Managed SP is being worked on

  3. WPA3 Enterprise no-transition

    • call for testing: does it work well to set WPA3-only for 5+6 GHz, with WPA2 for 2.4 only?
    • Brian Ward Darthmouth College. have good experience. (Upcoming WLPC presentation)
    • Still issues/questions regarding manual onboarding on 6GHz and on transition (especially with Win11)
    • some people say Transition Mode is not actually a problem
    • FYI, Passpoint requires WPA3.
    • Policy decisions of sorts “hotspots must support WPA3 from X on” are not for this group (and probably can only be taken for Europe anyway, not global scale). Are also less critical because not cutting off long tail.
    • vs. “hotspots only doing WPA2 are not supported any more” does cut off old equipment and needs to be more thoughtfully considered

  4. IETF updates

    • radext interim yesterday
    • discussed open issues in RADIUS/DTLS document
    • thesis from Janfred is submitted, now more time to work on EAP-FIDO

  5. OpenRoaming updates

    • Luxembourg (RESTENA) is making progress in OpenRoaming, one is on-boarding, one has a lot of questions about paperwork (DPIA, legal requirements of becoming ANP), WBA site is not useful at all. Stefan P to pass some docs and details to Stefan W.
    • Hideaki G reports: Cityroam board recently received Open Innovation Award from the Minister for Science and Technology Policy in Japan. :-)
      • Their eduroam/OpenRoaming combined deployment worked!

  6. Workshop from Radiator and FreeRADIUS
    https://radiusconference.org/

    • Technical: Radiator, radsecproxy, FreeRADIUS, Painless Security, and others will focus on proxy issues
    • Public: various presentations on WBA (how accounting is terrible), eduroam (Klaas), university, enterprise NAC, etc.
    • Agenda is now final and online.

  7. AOB: WPA3 DPSK

    • (The Ruckus WPA3 DPSK is a hack where the client needs to do WPA2 first, MAC address RADIUS based works fine though) is under discussion with many people… Jouni Malinen && Alan DeKok are following

  8. Next VC

    • 11 Mar 2025, 1600 CET
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